Suspension Strength: Maverick R vs. Speed

[gonzalez.michael1]

Looks like another Maverick R failed in the same location. I'm willing to bet we will see more arm failures. No production arm failures on the Speed cars so far.

 

[Diablo2256]

Almost exact same break location. Wow. They went from tin foil chassis to tin foil a arms

 

[The Dude]

Yep, that's the second one I've seen. And in the same exact spot. The aftermarket companies are smiling.

I am thankful that Robby and Daniel took the time to properly design the bones of the Speed car. As @gonzalez.michael1 said, no production components of the Speed car's skeleton have failed as of yet. As we all know, Max's front right A-arm that failed at the Mint 400 was not a production A-arm. And the trailing arm's attachment bracket that failed at SSSS was not a production car (that bracket was not adequately welded to the frame......that issue was resolved prior to production units).

So, it's "so far, so good" with Speed's skeletal components on the production cars. I'm sure at some point one of those "hold my beer" types will push the car beyond reasonable limits and break something. But I would rather have my family in a Speed skeleton than one of the other brands of utv. (Just personal preference there.)

 

[night9]

Almost exact same break location. Wow. They went from tin foil chassis to tin foil a arms

Great for the aftermarket to step in

 

[pj_hunt]

I am wondering if this is a fusable link to save the mounting points on the chassis. If you hit a boulder or tree at high speed with the front wheel something is going to break. On our speed's our a-arms are so beefy I wonder if the tabs on the front bulk head will break before the arms do. I rather replace a broken a-arm than a front diff bulkhead. We haven't seen anyone crash bad enough to break something, we don't know the weak link in speed yet. Everything is so beefy on the speed I don't see an obvious weak point.

 

[WildWest]

I wondering if this is intensional:
1) To keep cost down
2) To help keep after market companies in business.
Doesn’t make sense how they can build a great motor and not follow up with the chassis and other parts.

 

[gonzalez.michael1]

Doesn’t make sense how they can build a great motor and not follow up with the chassis and other parts.

It does when you realize the Rotax engineers are in a different department than the chassis/suspension engineers.

 

[WildWest]

It does when you realize the Rotax engineers are in a different department than the chassis/suspension engineers.

Yeah I can see that happening too. You would think they would have learned from the x3.

 

[CampfiresNbrews]

I am wondering if this is a fusable link to save the mounting points on the chassis. If you hit a boulder or tree at high speed with the front wheel something is going to break. On our speed's our a-arms are so beefy I wonder if the tabs on the front bulk head will break before the arms do. I rather replace a broken a-arm than a front diff bulkhead. We haven't seen anyone crash bad enough to break something, we don't know the weak link in speed yet. Everything is so beefy on the speed I don't see an obvious weak point.

I believe you are correct. But I thought that part is supposed to bend not break so that you could limp it back to camp.

 

[The Dude]

I wondering if this is intensional:
1) To keep cost down
2) To help keep after market companies in business.
Doesn’t make sense how they can build a great motor and not follow up with the chassis and other parts.

Agree. Most utv companies' priority is profit margin. One other possible reason to go with thin walled components could be to keep weight down to increase acceleration rate. But I'll happily take the extra pounds of the Speed car if it means more safety for me and my family. I couldn't care less how my car compares to someone else's car in terms of acceleration rate. But that's just me. Others may have differing priorities.

 

[pj_hunt]

I believe you are correct. But I thought that part is supposed to bend not break so that you could limp it back to camp.

I heard they used a wratchet strap to support the broken a-arm and drove the yellow one back to camp. Don't know the details on this black one but I assume they are able to lump it back with only one side broken.

 

[The Dude]

FYI, here's a live stream from RG at today's SSSS showing details of the new Can-Am Maverick R chassis/cage. My thoughts? Noooo thank you. IMO, the Speed chassis/cage is so much safer....by a longshot.

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[Diablo2256]

Bluetooth roll bar, lol!

 

[DWRAT]

FYI, here's a live stream from RG at today's SSSS showing details of the new Can-Am Maverick R chassis/cage. My thoughts? Noooo thank you. IMO, the Speed chassis/cage is so much safer....by a longshot.

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That was a pretty good and honest video.

 

[aiiRaciing]

Someone posted that none of their friends know that they ordered a Speed car, and every year at this time I get no less than 50 people texting/DM’ing me about when am I getting my car and WAFJ this car is. With that being said, do you guys think someone who has a new Can Am is also getting ungodly amounts of people talking shit

 

[SEN]

Someone posted that none of their friends know that they ordered a Speed car, and every year at this time I get no less than 50 people texting/DM’ing me about when am I getting my car and WAFJ this car is. With that being said, do you guys think someone who has a new Can Am is also getting ungodly amounts of people talking shit

I hope they are talking shit about the Can Am lower A arms breaking. I checked it out and everything is tinfoil thin . I'm on board with whomever it was that suggested to take a SXS from each manufacturer and roll it down a hill/mountain to show which has the superior cage, chassis and overall structural strength. I know which one I'd put money on to win.

 

[The Dude]

I hope they are talking shit about the Can Am lower A arms breaking. I checked it out and everything is tinfoil thin . I'm on board with whomever it was that suggested to take a SXS from each manufacturer and roll it down a hill/mountain to show which has the superior cage, chassis and overall structural strength. I know which one I'd put money on to win.

Biiiig +1

 

[The Dude]

Bluetooth roll bar, lol!

That was actually an excellent "touche" (tooshay) by Robby in response to a comment by a hater a couple of years ago when Robby was doing one of his weekly live updates and the shocks were missing from the El Jefe chassis (the car was propped up by other means for the purposes of the video). The hater wrote in the vid's comments section "I guess those must be Speed's new bluetooth shocks." A high five to Robby for his poetic justice comment today. Well played.

 

[pyrocoyote1]

That was actually an excellent "touche" (tooshay) by Robby in response to a comment by a hater a couple of years ago when Robby was doing one of his weekly live updates and the shocks were missing from the El Jefe chassis (the car was propped up by other means for the purposes of the video). The hater wrote in the vid's comments section "I guess those must be Speed's new bluetooth shocks." A high five to Robby for his poetic justice comment today. Well played.

That’s right I forgot about that. Good catch haha
Why doesn’t can am turn the maverick R upside down and use it as a stage? Or platform for giving tattoos?

 

[DWRAT]

FYI, here's a live stream from RG at today's SSSS showing details of the new Can-Am Maverick R chassis/cage. My thoughts? Noooo thank you. IMO, the Speed chassis/cage is so much safer....by a longshot.

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I'm guessing we will never see Cleatus drive a Stadium Super Truck again.

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